Category:Expat France
Why France?
The US is devolving at the hands of selfishness. Greed, avarice, megalomania, sociopathic narcissism - it goes by many names and in the guise of late stage capitalism and Supply Side Jesus, it has become the truest national religion. It is painful to see and living within it is torture. Trump is just a symptom, not the disease.
I hope that is different in France. If it is not, I will still enjoy the nicer climate of L'Occitanie, ubiquitous public transit, safer and more pervasive bicycling, and the cultural elements like jazz, cafes, and fine art.
But I do hope it will be different in France. I hope it will align with this:
Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libert%C3%A9%2C_%C3%A9galit%C3%A9%2C_fraternit%C3%A9
In other words, liberté, égalité, fraternité was one slogan among many others.[2] During the Jacobin revolutionary period, various mottos were used, such as liberté, unité, égalité (liberty, unity, equality); liberté, égalité, justice (liberty, equality, justice); liberté, raison, égalité (liberty, reason, equality), etc.[2] The only solid association was that of liberté and égalité, with fraternité being ignored by the Cahiers de doléances as well as by the 1789 Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen.[2]
Fraternité was only alluded to in the 1791 Constitution, as well as in Robespierre's draft Declaration of 1793, placed under the invocation of (in that order) égalité, liberté, sûreté and propriété (equality, liberty, safety, property)—though it was used not as a motto, but as articles of declaration, as the possibility of a universal extension of the Declaration of Rights: "Men of all countries are brothers, he who oppresses one nation declares himself the enemy of all."[2][a] Fraternité did not figure in the August 1793 Declaration.[2]
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The third term, fraternité, was the most problematic to insert in the triad, as it belonged to another sphere, that of moral obligations rather than rights, links rather than statutes, harmony rather than contract, and community rather than individuality.[2] Various interpretations of fraternité existed. The first one, according to Mona Ozouf, was one of "fraternité de rébellion" (Fraternity of Rebellion),[2] that is the union of the deputies in the Jeu de Paume Oath of June 1789, refusing the dissolution ordered by the King Louis XVI: "We swear never to separate ourselves from the National Assembly, and to reassemble wherever circumstances require, until the constitution of the realm is drawn up and fixed upon solid foundations." Fraternity was thus issued from Liberty, and oriented by a common cause.[2]
Another form of fraternité was that of the patriotic Church, which identified social links with religious links and based fraternity on Christian brotherhood.[2] In this second sense, fraternité preceded both liberté and égalité, instead of following them as in the first sense.[2][page needed] Thus, two senses of Fraternity: "one, that followed liberty and equality, was the object of a free pact; the other preceded liberty and equality as the mark on its work of the divine craftsman."[2]
I believe that the US would be better identified with the phrase, "égalité, liberté, sûreté and propriété" (equality, liberty, safety, property). I think that the land of my birth is more concerned with safety and property than with brotherhood, and I think that pervades its law, its customs, and its culture.
I hope to find that France kept the "fraternité" because it matters. I want to be nice to people, supportive of my community, and to live in a community where that behaviour is somewhere between respected and expected.
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Toulouse
La vie en rose dans la ville rose.
- Toulouse House
- https://maps.app.goo.gl/7SvqFemGa2HMT4af8
- e640k, 190 m2, big pool, decent yard
- https://www.green-acres.fr/en/properties/house/toulouse/Awser2gjhaei9mc3.htm
- Toulouse e650k modern country retreat
- https://www.green-acres.fr/en/properties/house/gratentour/A33wlecfbxywei0c.htm
- 213 m2, hot tub, pool, 40 m2 garage/shop
- Toulouse e540k modern country retreat
- https://www.green-acres.fr/en/properties/house/bruguieres/Aipwpoef05zktrei.htm
- 155 m2 with 3-4 car garage, pool.
- Life in Toulouse (en Francais): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt_JA3wzMx8
- L'Occitanie (Southern France ex-Riviera): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glt5cjuDtg8
- Toulouse Bicycle Rental
- https://paulette.bike/ e176 for 2 weeks, large touring
- Toulouse Vacation Rentals: https://www.airbnb.com/toulouse-france/stays
- LeBonCoin (Craig's List): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leboncoin
GPT
Residency in France
Permanent Residency in France: Requirements
Getting permanent residency in France can be more complex compared to Spain, but here’s a basic outline of the process:
- Long-Stay Visa:
- First, you need to apply for a long-stay visa (Visa de Long Séjour), which allows you to stay in France for more than 90 days. Common visas for retirees include the Visitor Visa (Visa de Long Séjour Visiteur), which is for those who plan to live in France without working.
- You must prove that you have sufficient financial resources to support yourself and health insurance coverage.
- Temporary Residence Permit (Carte de Séjour):
- After living in France for one year with your long-stay visa, you can apply for a Carte de Séjour (temporary residence permit). This must be renewed annually for the first five years of your stay.
- Permanent Residency (Carte de Résident):
- After living in France for five consecutive years, you can apply for permanent residency (Carte de Résident).
- Requirements include:
- Proof of financial stability (demonstrating that you have sufficient funds or pension to support yourself without working).
- Proof of integration into French society (this might involve demonstrating language proficiency and familiarity with French culture).
- You must not have a serious criminal record.
- Healthcare and Insurance:
- As a non-EU citizen, you must have comprehensive health insurance for the initial years. After you’ve lived in France for three months, you can apply to join the PUMA system (universal healthcare), but you may still need private health insurance depending on your circumstances.
French Riviera
If you're considering Málaga, Spain, as an expat retirement destination for its coastal beauty and vibrant art scene, the most similar option in France would likely be Nice, located on the French Riviera.
Here’s why Nice would be a great alternative:
- Coastal Living: Like Málaga, Nice is located on the Mediterranean coast, offering a mild climate, beautiful beaches, and a laid-back coastal lifestyle. Both cities have a similar Mediterranean vibe, with stunning waterfronts and a strong connection to the sea.
- Art and Culture: Nice is renowned for its rich artistic heritage, much like Málaga, which is the birthplace of Pablo Picasso. Nice has a strong connection to famous artists like Henri Matisse and Marc Chagall, and it houses several important art museums, such as the Musée Matisse and Musée Marc Chagall. The city is also part of the broader artistic legacy of the French Riviera, which has inspired countless artists over the centuries.
- Climate: Nice has a Mediterranean climate, with warm summers and mild winters, much like Málaga. This makes it a great place to enjoy year-round outdoor activities and a relaxed lifestyle.
- Lifestyle: Both Málaga and Nice offer a balance of modern urban living with old-world charm. In Nice, you’ll find markets, historic streets, and a cosmopolitan atmosphere with a strong expat community, which mirrors some of the appeal of Málaga.
- Accessibility: Nice is well-connected with an international airport and excellent public transportation, making it easy for travel both within France and to other European destinations, similar to Málaga’s connectivity.
Other coastal cities in France with strong art scenes that you might also consider include Marseille and Montpellier, but Nice is the closest match to Málaga in terms of lifestyle, coastal living, and the emphasis on art and culture.
Cost of Living: Nice vs. Málaga
Housing:
- Málaga:
- Rent and property prices in Málaga are generally more affordable than in Nice.
- A one-bedroom apartment in the city center costs around €800-€1,200 per month, while outside the center, prices drop to €600-€900.
- Purchasing an apartment in Málaga ranges from €2,000 to €4,000 per square meter, depending on location.
- Nice:
- Rent and property prices in Nice are higher than in Málaga due to its location on the French Riviera.
- A one-bedroom apartment in the city center costs around €1,000-€1,500 per month, while outside the center, you’re looking at €800-€1,200.
- Purchasing an apartment in Nice ranges from €4,500 to €7,000 per square meter, depending on proximity to the beach and central areas.
Groceries and Daily Expenses:
- Málaga:
- Groceries, dining out, and daily expenses are cheaper compared to France. Spain has lower VAT on food and basic items.
- A meal at a mid-range restaurant typically costs around €10-€20 per person, and monthly grocery costs might range from €200-€350.
- Nice:
- Groceries and dining out are more expensive due to the overall higher cost of living in France, especially on the French Riviera.
- A meal at a mid-range restaurant in Nice will likely cost around €15-€30 per person, and monthly grocery costs might range from €250-€450.
Utilities:
- Utilities (electricity, heating, water) are relatively similar in both cities, with some fluctuations due to seasonal needs (e.g., heating in winter in Nice).
Transportation:
- Public transportation is affordable in both cities. In Málaga, monthly passes cost around €40, and in Nice, they cost about €50-€60.
- Gasoline and car ownership costs tend to be higher in France than in Spain.
Marseille and Montpellier versus Nice
When comparing the cost of living between Nice, Marseille, and Montpellier, Montpellier generally has the lowest cost of living among the three, followed by Marseille, with Nice being the most expensive.
Cost of Living Breakdown:
- Montpellier:
- Monthly expenses for a single person are estimated around €941.8 without rent, making it the most budget-friendly option of the three cities.
- Utilities and rent are lower compared to both Nice and Marseille, and basic groceries such as cheese, bread, and milk are more affordable.
- The average monthly rent for a one-bedroom apartment in the city center ranges from €800-€1,000
- Purchase: The cost is around €3,370 to €3,500 per square meter, depending on the neighborhood. This is more affordable compared to coastal cities, making Montpellier a popular option for those seeking a balance between cost and quality of life ($512k - $531k for 1500 ft2)
- Marseille:
- The cost of living in Marseille is slightly higher than in Montpellier but still lower than in Nice.
- Monthly expenses for a single person without rent are estimated at €1,000-€1,200.
- Housing costs are more affordable than in Nice, and groceries, transportation, and dining out are also relatively economical
- Monthly rent for a one-bedroom apartment in the city center ranges from €700-€1,000.
- Purchase: The price per square meter is slightly higher, ranging from €3,716 to €4,600 for properties within the city. In more desirable neighborhoods near the coast or in central areas, prices tend to be on the higher end ($564k - $700k for 1500 ft2)
- Nice:
- Nice is the most expensive of the three, with monthly expenses for a single person estimated at around €1,033 without rent
- Housing costs in Nice are significantly higher, with one-bedroom apartments in the city center typically costing €1,100-€1,500 per month.
- Groceries and utilities are also pricier in Nice compared to Montpellier and Marseille.
- Purchasing an apartment in Nice ranges from €4,500 to €7,000 per square meter, depending on proximity to the beach and central areas. ($684k - $1064k for 1500 ft2)
Additional Considerations:
- Dining and Entertainment: Eating out is notably more expensive in Nice, with an average meal at a mid-range restaurant for two costing around €80, compared to about €50-€60 in Montpellier and Marseille.
- Utilities and Transportation: Monthly utility costs in Montpellier are around €167.61 for a standard apartment, lower than in both Nice (€240.62) and Marseille (€166.42)
- Quality of Life: Nice offers a more upscale lifestyle with its prime location on the French Riviera, but for a more budget-friendly option, Montpellier combines a lively cultural scene with lower costs.
Overall, if cost is a primary concern, Montpellier would be the best choice, followed by Marseille for a balance between affordability and proximity to the Mediterranean coast. Nice is ideal if you prioritize lifestyle and luxury but at a higher expense.
Inland France
Inland France offers several attractive retirement options with a lower cost of living compared to coastal cities like Nice, while still providing rich culture, beautiful landscapes, and charming towns. Here are a few inland areas that could be a great alternative to coastal living in France:
1. Provence (Inland areas like Aix-en-Provence, Avignon, and Luberon):
- Vibe: Provence is known for its picturesque countryside, lavender fields, vineyards, and charming villages. While Provence does stretch to the coast, many of its famous towns are inland.
- Art and Culture: Cities like Aix-en-Provence and Avignon are rich in history, art, and culture. Aix is known for its art scene, while Avignon is home to the famous Avignon Theatre Festival and the historic Papal Palace.
- Cost of Living: These areas are generally more affordable than Nice but can still be on the higher end, especially in popular towns. Housing in Aix-en-Provence is slightly more expensive than in Avignon, but both are cheaper than the French Riviera.
- Access to Nature: You’ll be surrounded by nature, including the Luberon mountains and regional parks, offering a serene lifestyle.
- Accessibility: Good transport links to major cities, including Marseille and Paris, via high-speed trains (TGV).
2. Dordogne (Périgord):
- Vibe: Dordogne is in southwest France and is known for its medieval villages, castles, rivers, and scenic countryside. It's a popular area for expats due to its relaxed pace of life and affordable living.
- Art and Culture: Dordogne offers a slower pace and a rich history. Towns like Sarlat-la-Canéda are steeped in medieval charm, and the region is famous for its prehistoric cave paintings, such as those in Lascaux.
- Cost of Living: Dordogne is significantly cheaper than coastal areas. Renting and buying property are much more affordable, with prices for homes in some areas starting around €1,500-€2,500 per square meter. ($228k - $380k for 1500 ft2)
- Access to Nature: The region is great for outdoor activities, like hiking, canoeing, and exploring the countryside.
- Accessibility: Dordogne is more rural, so it lacks the high-speed train connections of more central areas, but you can easily reach major cities by car or regional trains.
3. Loire Valley:
- Vibe: Known for its rolling hills, vineyards, and majestic châteaux, the Loire Valley is an ideal spot for those who enjoy history, wine, and tranquil living.
- Art and Culture: Towns like Tours and Orléans have a vibrant cultural life, with museums, art galleries, and historical sites. The area is also known as the "Garden of France", making it great for nature lovers.
- Cost of Living: It’s more affordable than Provence and much cheaper than the coast. Housing prices in smaller towns in the Loire Valley are very reasonable, often ranging from €1,800-€3,500 per square meter. ($273k - $532k for 1500 ft2)
- Access to Nature: The Loire River, vineyards, and gardens provide plenty of outdoor activities.
- Accessibility: The Loire Valley is well-connected to Paris and other major cities by train, making it convenient while still offering a peaceful rural lifestyle.
4. Toulouse:
- Vibe: Known as "La Ville Rose" (The Pink City), Toulouse is a vibrant city in the southwest of France. It’s a great blend of modern living and historical charm with a lively cultural scene.
- Art and Culture: Toulouse has a strong cultural identity, with many museums, theaters, and galleries. It’s also a center for aerospace technology, adding a modern twist to the historical city.
- Cost of Living: Toulouse is more affordable than Paris or Nice, but slightly more expensive than smaller towns. Housing prices range from €2,500-€4,000 per square meter in the city center. ($380k - $608k for 1500 ft2)
- Access to Nature: Close to the Pyrenees for skiing and hiking, as well as the Mediterranean and Atlantic coasts for day trips.
- Accessibility: Toulouse has its own international airport and good train connections, making it convenient for travel.
5. Burgundy (Bourgogne):
- Vibe: Burgundy is famous for its wine, peaceful countryside, and gourmet cuisine. It's ideal for retirees seeking a quiet, rural life with access to world-class wine and food.
- Art and Culture: Cities like Dijon and Beaune are cultural hubs in Burgundy. Dijon is known for its medieval architecture and museums, while Beaune is the heart of Burgundy’s wine industry.
- Cost of Living: The cost of living in Burgundy is lower than in coastal areas. Housing in smaller towns can be quite affordable, with property prices ranging from €1,500-€3,000 per square meter.
- Access to Nature: The region offers vineyards, forests, and rolling hills, making it perfect for nature lovers.
- Accessibility: Dijon is connected to Paris by high-speed trains (TGV), making it a convenient location despite its rural feel.
Cost of Living: Inland France vs. Málaga
- Housing: Inland France is generally more affordable than coastal regions like the French Riviera, but prices can vary. In smaller towns like those in Dordogne or Burgundy, housing can be much cheaper than Málaga. However, in popular regions like Provence, property prices can rival or exceed those in Málaga.
- Groceries and Daily Expenses: Inland France tends to be on par or slightly more affordable than coastal France, but still a bit higher than in Málaga due to general cost-of-living differences between France and Spain.
- Transportation: Public transportation may be more limited in rural inland areas, but regions like Provence, Toulouse, and the Loire Valley have good rail connections.
Conclusion:
If you're seeking a more affordable retirement option compared to coastal France, inland regions like the Loire Valley, Dordogne, or Burgundy offer beautiful landscapes, a rich cultural experience, and a lower cost of living than places like Nice or the French Riviera. Toulouse and Provence offer more urban options with strong cultural scenes, although they may be slightly more expensive. These areas also provide a great quality of life while being relatively well-connected and ideal for a peaceful retirement.
Toulouse
Toulouse is an increasingly popular destination for U.S. expats, offering a vibrant cultural scene, a great quality of life, and a lower cost of living than larger French cities like Paris. Here’s how Toulouse aligns with your specific interests in bicycling, art, jazz, hiking, and ceramics:
1. Bicycling in Toulouse:
- Bike-Friendly City: Toulouse is very bike-friendly, with an extensive network of cycling paths, including the popular Canal du Midi route, a UNESCO World Heritage Site that stretches from Toulouse to the Mediterranean. It's a picturesque path perfect for leisurely rides or more extended cycling trips.
- VélôToulouse: The city has a well-maintained bike-sharing system called VélôToulouse, making it easy for residents to pick up a bike at any of the numerous stations around the city.
- Cycling Culture: There’s an active cycling community in Toulouse. You'll find plenty of local cycling clubs and groups that organize rides both in the city and the surrounding countryside.
- Day Trips: The surrounding Pyrenees mountains and rolling hills of Occitanie make for excellent day-trip cycling for more adventurous cyclists looking for elevation and scenic routes.
2. Art in Toulouse:
- Cultural Hub: Toulouse has a strong cultural and artistic heritage, offering a rich array of museums, galleries, and festivals. One of the key highlights is the Les Abattoirs, the city's modern and contemporary art museum, which hosts regular exhibitions of both French and international artists.
- Street Art Scene: Toulouse has a thriving street art culture. The Rose Béton festival is a major street art event in the city, and you'll find many walls and buildings covered in vibrant, creative works.
- Toulouse Art Markets: The Marché des Carmes and Place Saint-Pierre are famous for hosting regular art markets where local artists display their works, including ceramics, paintings, and sculptures.
- Art Classes: There are opportunities for expats to participate in art workshops and courses, either through private studios or the École des Beaux-Arts de Toulouse, a prestigious art school in the city.
3. Jazz Scene in Toulouse:
- Jazz Festivals: Toulouse has a lively jazz scene, with the annual Toulouse d’Été festival celebrating jazz and other live music performances across the city. Another key event is the Jazz sur son 31 festival, which brings together local and international jazz musicians in various venues around Toulouse.
- Jazz Clubs and Bars: Several venues host regular jazz performances, such as Le Bijou, a small, intimate bar known for its eclectic live music scene, and Le Taquin, which is dedicated to jazz and blues performances.
- Conservatoire de Toulouse: The city’s conservatory has a strong focus on jazz education and hosts public performances by both students and professional musicians.
4. Hiking Around Toulouse:
- Proximity to the Pyrenees: One of the great benefits of living in Toulouse is the city’s proximity to the Pyrenees mountains, which offer world-class hiking opportunities. You can easily take a day trip or a weekend getaway for some serious hiking or skiing in the winter months.
- Regional Parks: Closer to the city, there are numerous regional parks such as Parc naturel régional des Pyrénées Ariégeoises and Parc naturel régional du Haut-Languedoc that provide a wide variety of hiking trails, from easy walks to more challenging routes.
- Garonne River Walks: For something more local, Toulouse sits on the banks of the Garonne River, which has beautiful walking and cycling paths along the water. This is perfect for a peaceful walk or light hike without leaving the city.
5. Ceramics in Toulouse:
- Ceramic Studios and Workshops: Toulouse has a growing community of ceramic artists. You can find several studios offering workshops and classes for both beginners and experienced ceramists. The Atelier de la Main is one such place where expats can learn the craft of pottery and ceramic sculpture.
- Markets for Local Crafts: Toulouse hosts regular craft markets where local ceramic artists sell their work. The Marché des Créateurs is a great place to explore handmade pottery and ceramics.
- Artisan Ceramics: The city is part of the broader Occitanie region, which has a rich tradition of pottery and ceramics. Many nearby villages specialize in traditional ceramics, making it easy to find inspiration or source local materials for your work.
U.S. Expat Life in Toulouse:
- Community: There is a thriving expat community in Toulouse, including many Americans who work for the Aerospace industry (due to the presence of Airbus) or have chosen to retire in the city. Groups like Americans in Toulouse and other local expat organizations often organize social events, including art and music outings, hiking trips, and cultural exchanges.
- Cost of Living: The cost of living in Toulouse is lower than in Paris or Nice but slightly higher than in some rural areas. Renting a one-bedroom apartment in the city center costs around €800-€1,200, while groceries and dining out are reasonably priced. Toulouse provides an excellent balance between a dynamic urban life and affordable living.
- Integration: Toulouse is known for being welcoming to foreigners, and learning French, while useful, is not absolutely necessary for day-to-day life due to the city’s international population.
Summary:
Toulouse is a vibrant, multifaceted city that caters well to your interests. Whether it's cycling along the Canal du Midi, attending jazz festivals, participating in ceramic workshops, or hiking in the Pyrenees, Toulouse offers an enriching and diverse expat experience for those who value culture, nature, and an active lifestyle.
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