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Revision as of 00:16, 1 March 2024
Police Data: https://old.reddit.com/r/DataPolice/
Note: The following collection is not meant as a tabloid of horrible acts. I strongly believe some portion of them are entirely appropriate behavior. Rather, these are meant as a collection of stories which can be explored to find the dividing line between justifiable acts and misconduct.
Alleged Inappropriate
Recent alleged incidents of inappropriate activity (not necessarily bad, but examples for finding the dividing line):
- https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/qyjgvd/5_georgia_officers_indicted_on_murder_charges_in/hlgivri/
- https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/r804fq/jury_awards_north_carolina_man_6m_after_ruling/
- https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/r807k4/4_officers_denied_immunity_over_2017_fatal_arrest/
- https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/s30lqc/police_probe_clears_dayton_ohio_officers_who/
- https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/s431sv/video_shows_florida_police_sergeant_grabbing/
- https://old.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/saiz0b/police_in_this_tiny_alabama_town_suck_drivers/
- https://www.ocregister.com/2022/02/11/da-clears-deputy-who-shot-and-killed-homeless-black-man/
- https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/ssw4y2/san_francisco_police_reportedly_link_woman_to/
- https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/to525b/jury_awards_14_million_to_protesters_injured_by/
- https://old.reddit.com/r/byebyejob/comments/1603jr3/he_was_fired_oh_no_his_life_is_ruined_s/
- torturing a compliant suspect: https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/16a0xlm/cop_points_his_gun_at_a_young_man_who_surrendered/
- PIT: https://old.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/16g1o7b/why_would_you_do_that/
- 40 MPH Over, Pedestrian Killed, Laughter: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fip0h9j6ck0ob1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D1416%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D084f28a23dac7917f01a0651e7d5fe478a23b861
- https://old.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/16hku7m/she_deserved_it_obviously/
- "Slight correction, the officer on the bodycam saying this stuff is not the officer that actually hit her. He's the vice president of the Seattle police union,"
- https://divestspd.substack.com/p/spog-vice-presidents-weird-irrelevant
- "2010: Auderer was one of several officers who stopped two Mexican immigrants under a false pretext. The officers were caught on camera verbally abusing them and roughly arresting them. One of the officers, Corey Williams, infamously threatened to “skull fuck” the pair. (He’s now the sergeant of crisis response.)
- 2010: Auderer was one of a dozen officers who savagely beat Brian Torgerson, a mentally ill man, causing permanent brain damage. SPD settled with Torgerson’s family for $1.75 million.
- 2014: Auderer received another complaint from a woman he arrested, who claimed he sexually harassed her in a holding cell. There was no audio of the incident, so OPA issued a training referral.
- 2015: Auderer punched and choked a homeless man inside the ER at Harborview Hospital. SPD’s Force Review Board ruled that the force was unjustified, but OPA ultimately cleared him.
- 2016: OPA investigated Auderer for using force against a Black woman while she was handcuffed. This is prohibited by SPD policy unless there are “exceptional circumstances.” OPA ruled that the force use—which occurred conveniently beyond the view of the in-car video—was “lawful and proper.”
- 2016: OPA investigated Auderer again for punching a woman in the face. He was cleared of any wrongdoing
- 2016: Auderer was suspended for four days for taking part in an arrest while on an off-duty ridealong with his brother, who is an officer in another jurisdiction. He violated the person’s Miranda rights & failed to report the arrest to a supervisor.
- 2018: Auderer was reprimanded for making demeaning, unnecessary comments about a woman’s mental health during a traffic stop."
- Elijah McClain: https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/16oeija/testimony_begins_in_officers_trial_over_death_of/
- Suspended Without Pay (wrongful imprisoned ex-girlfriend): https://news.sky.com/story/woman-spent-days-in-mental-facility-after-ex-boyfriend-forcibly-arrested-her-12970175
- Side note: Never say anything that could be interpreted as suicidal or homicidal. "Ronald Davis ... claimed she was suicidal based on text messages ... obtained a document to commit her on 21 August in the US state of Pennsylvania. ... She was committed to a psychiatric facility based on an Involuntary Mental Health Commitment from 21 August until 25 August"
- Police Privacy Violation: https://old.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/16zk082/these_little_piggies_would_appreciate_it_if/
- Nocogdoches Sheriffs Assualt Voluntary Informant: https://old.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/172fs1o/man_was_voluntarily_helping_county_sheriffs_with/
- "Department of Public Safety found no fault with the deputies actions... So I guess we are now legalizing this type of conduct. Another reason you never agree to be interviewed by the police without your attorney present."
- Roadside Sleeper Beaten, Video Surfaces, Story Changes: https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1735or2/spokane_county_sheriffs_deputy_placed_on_leave/
- Alabama Ambush Kill: https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/173qsgn/police_did_not_give_black_alabama_homeowner_time/
- Dickinson, TX, assault, brain hemorrhage, no treatment: https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/173sw0y/dickinson_police_gave_a_man_a_brain_bleed_city/
- Atlanta, GA, Deacon homicide: https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/173wy0p/death_of_atlanta_deacon_who_was_electrically/
- KCKPD Child Sex Trafficking & More: https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/17rcnxa/kansas_city_kansas_empowered_police_to_exploit/
- Rio Rancho elder care murderer: https://old.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/17xpz4r/police_try_not_to_be_uselessevil_challenge/
- St. Louis, Crash into Bar, Arrest Owner: https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/18lqd70/st_louis_police_crash_into_lgbtq_bar_arrest_its/
- Deaf, "Resisting", $255k Settlement: https://old.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/18xw8yg/maybe_this_is_why_a_president_shouldnt_be_telling/
- Child Abuse for Social Media "Good Cop" Lie: https://old.reddit.com/r/HolUp/comments/18y8mvv/just_lost_my_daily_dose_of_faith_in_humanity/
- Suicide Hours After Learning of Investigation: https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/193l7y6/pasadena_officer_died_by_suicide_hours_after/
- Chicago Cop Assaults Handcuffed Suspect: https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/194ldru/chicago_cop_charged_after_throwing_handcuffed/
- Illegal Immigrant Killed, Didn't Have Rights: https://old.reddit.com/r/nottheonion/comments/1am1hso/city_says_man_killed_by_police_in_case_of/
- Startled Cop Unloads Service Handgun Into His Prowler: https://old.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/1aq1p56/police_officer_mistakes_random_noise_as_gunshot/
- Different Sub: https://old.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/1apzmno/cop_has_ptsdlike_reaction_to_an_imaginary_gunshot/
- Different Sub: https://old.reddit.com/r/AbruptChaos/comments/1ar6etw/cop_mistakes_acorn_for_gunshot/
- Different Sub: https://old.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleTwitter/comments/1ardljr/squirrel_said_acab/
- Cop Punches Honking Man: https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1b25hnn/offduty_officer_captured_on_video_punching_man_in/
Good Side
- https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/sydrmh/utah_man_accused_of_telling_4yearold_to_shoot_at/
- https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/tqa7c2/police_shoot_man_being_held_for_mental_health_at/
- Mental health patient charging at a cop with a weapon. Tragic, but I think this is a good example for the good cop side.
- https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/16hu0jk/police_official_defends_officers_group_photo_with/
- There's a ton of stories like this one, of cops doing the right thing in the ordinary line of duty, but that totally counts.
- Helping a Disabled Person: https://old.reddit.com/r/sadposting/comments/16m5r4d/so_sad_what_a_cool_cop/
- Cop Charged with Murder?!?: https://www.fox29.com/news/eddie-irizarry-all-charges-dropped-against-philadelphia-officer-for-fatal-shooting-during-traffic-stop
- I can see it being wrong to shoot a guy who is brandishing a weapon that cannot effect any harm (a knife inside a car with the doors and windows closed), but a murder charge would require evidence of intent.
- I think the DA was probably overreaching. Worst case they were intentionally overcharging to get it tossed out. Even if that were the case, it's the DAs fault, not the cop.
- It's entirely plausible that the cop was unable to process the difference between "He's got a knife" and "He's got a weapon" before acting in self-defense.
- It's also possible that there is more to the story, but based on that article, this is just the painful side of the necessary.
- Crash, tried to save them: https://old.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/16tpkkb/bodycam_footage_cop_pulls_over_couple_on_their/
- Door Dash Completion: https://old.reddit.com/r/JustGuysBeingDudes/comments/18iszp7/now_thats_a_good_copper/
- Helping a Knife Wielding Man in Crisis: https://old.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/comments/194eviy/cops_really_knows_how_to_handle_situations_like/
- Honest Mistake, Public Apology: https://old.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/1asc62d/cop_apologizes_instead_of_doubling_down/
- Handling Armed Suspects Well in Seattle: https://old.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1at9f1f/police_arrest_two_13yearold_carjackers_in_seattle/
Asset Siezure
Airports
It's not just for mirror-shaded hillbillies anymore. Feds and major cities are doing asset seizure of money that refuses to prove its innocence at airports now.
- https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/17kjz77/in_plane_sight_drug_agents_searching_passengers/
- https://www.13abc.com/2023/10/30/plane-sight-drug-agents-searching-passengers-cash-airport-gates/
But passengers don’t surrender their Fourth Amendment rights against warrantless searches by police just because they’re at the airport, according to multiple legal analysts and court documents.
The DEA officially calls its stops and searches at airport gates “cold consent encounters.” Passengers are free to end the discussion and walk away, according to the DEA, even if they’re unaware of those rights.
A federal judge recently dismissed the lawsuit filed by André and English in part because he said they should have known their stops were consensual and not a detention. The men were free to go even if they felt trapped by police on the jet bridge.
The men have filed a notice of appeal with the 11th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals.
Others who have been searched at the boarding gate said they felt “coerced,” “pressured” or gave consent “under duress.”
In 2015, the Department of Justice Inspector General told the DEA it should stop causing confusion by referring to the searches as a “secondary inspection.”
“Such terminology creates a risk that travelers will interpret the statement to mean they are required to consent to the encounter, similar to their obligations at a TSA checkpoint,” the IG wrote.
Other Executive
CIA
A military judge at Guantánamo Bay has ruled a 9/11 defendant incompetent to stand trial after a military medical panel found that the man’s sustained abuse in CIA custody years earlier had rendered him lastingly psychotic.
...The five 9/11 defendants were variously subjected to repeated waterboarding, beatings, violent repeated searches of their rectal cavities, sleep deprivation and other abuse while at so-called CIA black sites.
The CIA says it stopped its detention and interrogation program in 2009. A Senate investigation concluded the abuse had been ineffective in obtaining useful information.
Other
- Using Police Dialogue Tactics: https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/17lfa7o/guy_talks_to_a_cop_like_a_cop/
- AT&T Records For Sale to Local PDs Without Warrants, funded by Fed: https://old.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1812w67/us_govt_pays_att_to_let_cops_search_americans/
- Research on Sociopathy, Cruelty, Stressful Situations: https://old.reddit.com/r/science/comments/18i6uae/many_law_enforcement_officers_exhibit_varying/
- https://digitalcommons.usf.edu/etd/9185/
- See Documents/data/Cool Under Fire: Psychopathic Traits and Decision-Making in Law Enforcement-Oriented PopulationsEnforcement-Oriented Population.pdf
- LEO Mortality By State: https://old.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/18gxkv4/most_dangerous_states_for_law_enforcement/
Rough Concept
- Level of Scrutiny
- In an ideal society, what level of scrutiny should citizens have over police?
- In an ideal society, what level of scrutiny should police have over citizens?
- If those two things are not in balance, why?
- Improvement of Scrutiny
- How do we improve the quality of scrutiny, in each case?
- Exposing Bad Acting by Scrutinizers
- There are bad scrutinizers; in each case, how do we expose and inhibit them?
- Improving Good Scrutiny
- In each case, there is good scrutiny; scrutiny which can create a path to improvement.
- How do we increase good scrutiny in each case?
Links from the Reddit post in the first link above:
<a href="https://time.com/6046645/police-killings-2021/">People Expected Police Behavior to Change After George Floyd’s Murder. The Numbers Tell a Different Story | Time | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/27/us/marco-puente-texas-police-arrest.html">Man Sues Police After Being Pepper-Sprayed While Filming Son’s Arrest | NY Times | 2020</a>
<a href="https://www.wbrz.com/news/lawsuit-alleges-la-deputies-sat-on-teen-with-autism-for-more-than-9-minutes-before-he-died/">Lawsuit alleges La. deputies sat on teen with autism for more than 9 minutes before he died | WBRZ | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article248474840.html">NC mom drove son to hospital for help, then watched him beaten, tased, lawsuit says | Charlotte Observer | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210126/09060846122/michigan-state-police-officials-are-dodging-public-records-obligations-using-encrypted-messaging-apps.shtml">Michigan State Police Officials Are Dodging Public Records Obligations By Using Encrypted Messaging Apps | TechDirt | 2021</a>
<a href="https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/02/23/us/angelo-quinto-antioch-police-department-death-trnd/index.html?__twitter_impression=true">Man dies after police kneel on his neck for nearly 5 minutes, family says in wrongful death claim | CNN | 2021</a>
<a href="https://local12.com/news/nation-world/new-video-shows-california-officers-fatally-shooting-black-man-accused-of-jaywalking">New video shows California officers fatally shooting Black man accused of jaywalking | Local 12 | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/nobody-hurt-just-a-perp-say-officers-after-nypd-shot-and-killed-man-in-his-own-home">“Nobody” Hurt, “Just a Perp,” Say Officers After NYPD Shot and Killed Man in His Own Home | Pro Publica | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/video/st-louis-police-officers-on-trial-for-beating-black-undercover-detective/">St. Louis police officers on trial for beating Black undercover detective during protest | CBS News | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.foxla.com/news/lapd-video-shows-black-man-arrested-by-officer-in-search-for-white-suspect">LAPD video shows Black man arrested by officers in search for white suspect | Fox11LA.com | 2021</a>
<a href="https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/550436-police-laughed-in-video-after-violent-arrest-of-73-year-old">Police laughed after violent arrest of 73-year-old with dementia | The Hill | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.ktvu.com/news/body-cam-video-shows-alameda-officer-kneeling-on-mario-gonzalez-before-death">Body cam video shows Alameda officer kneeling on Mario Gonzalez before death | Fox2.com | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/video-shows-south-carolina-deputies-repeatedly-tasing-black-man-he-n1267427">Video shows South Carolina deputies repeatedly tasing Black man before he dies in jail | NBC News | 2021</a>
<a href="https://news.sky.com/story/ronald-greene-bodycam-footage-shows-us-police-attacking-unarmed-black-man-who-died-in-custody-12311670">Ronald Greene: Bodycam footage shows violent arrest of unarmed black man in U.S. who died in custody | Sky News | 2021</a>
<a href="https://newschannel20.com/news/local/body-cam-video-sheds-light-on-traffic-stop-where-police-test-childs-ashes-for-meth">Body cam video sheds light on traffic stop where police test child's ashes for meth | NewsChannel20 | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/you-shouldnt-be-able-to-breathe-officer-tells-man-before-he-dies">'You shouldn't be able to breathe,' officer tells man before he dies | NewsChannel5 | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/arkansas-woman-suing-police-after-brief-chase-ends-her-car-n1270217">Cop Flips Pregnant Woman's Car For Not Stopping Fast Enough | NBC News | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ny-state-trooper-charged-with-murder-in-ramming-pursuit-that-killed-11-year-old/3356247/">NY State Trooper Charged With Murder in Ramming Pursuit That Killed 11-Year-Old | NBC New York | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/12-year-old-boy-killed-crash-after-high-speed-chase-n1279089">12-year-old boy killed in crash after high-speed chase involving Georgia trooper | NBC News | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.wlox.com/2021/07/15/falsely-accused-man-spends-months-jail-despite-video-showing-he-wasnt-crime-scene/">Falsely Accused: Man spends months in jail despite video showing he wasn’t at crime scene | WLOX | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/michael-chad-breinholt-west-lake-city-police-shooting-video/">VIDEO: A Utah Police Officer Killed a Man Inside the Police Department. It Was His Third Shooting. | PBS.org | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/boy-9-fatally-struck-by-vehicle-while-biking-on-sidewalk-in-west-rogers-park">Off-duty Chicago police officer strikes, kills 9-year-old boy riding bike in West Rogers Park | Fox32Chicago | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.newschannel5.com/news/off-duty-decherd-officer-accused-of-pointing-police-issued-gun-at-driver-during-road-rage-incident">Off-duty Decherd officer accused of pointing police-issued gun at driver during road rage incident | News Channel 5 | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210717/14341547193/using-george-floyd-protests-as-excuse-minneapolis-police-destroyed-evidence-case-files.shtml">Using The George Floyd Protests As An Excuse, Minneapolis Police Destroyed Evidence And Case Files | TechDirt | 2021</a>
<a href="https://minnesotareformer.com/2021/10/05/bodycam-shows-minneapolis-officers-hunting-civilians-during-floyd-protests/">Bodycam shows Minneapolis officers ‘hunting’ civilians during Floyd protests | Minnesota Reformer | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.wftv.com/news/9investigates/scso-captain-found-passed-out-traffic-sent-home-without-sobriety-medical-screening/4EOWQTZALNFCRGWNPSPLHX5MYE/">Sheriff’s office captain found passed out in traffic sent home without sobriety, medical screenings | ABC9 | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/27/us/atlanta-police-suspension-video/index.html">An Atlanta police officer and sergeant were removed from duty after video surfaced showing a woman being kicked in the head | CNN | 2021</a>
<a href="https://kdvr.com/news/local/19-year-old-man-shot-by-loveland-police-is-developmentally-delayed-attorney-says/">Loveland police shot developmentally delayed 19-year-old suffering mental health crisis, attorney says | Fox31 | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-police-fire-suspect-tragically-kill-bystander-instead-n1277485">California police fire at suspect, 'tragically' kill bystander instead | NBC News | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/23/us/bakersfield-california-police-investigation-reform/index.html">State investigation finds a California police department violated constitutional rights of residents | CNN | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/louisiana-police-officer-flashlight-beating-v1a6b20a0">Louisiana police officer brutally beats black man with flashlight 18 times | The Independent | 2021</a>
<a href="https://apnews.com/article/police-beatings-louisiana-video-91168d2848b10df739d73cc35b0c02f8">Beatings, buried videos a pattern at Louisiana State Police | AP News | 2021</a>
<a href="https://abc7.com/calls-for-justice-grow-after-school-officer-body-slams-lancaster-teen/11024102/">Community members are demanding answers after a school resource officer with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department was captured on video body-slamming a teenage girl to the ground at Lancaster High School. | ABC7 | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/deaf-colorado-man-arrested-not-complying-police-commands-he-couldn-n1280272">Deaf Colorado man arrested for not complying with police commands he couldn't understand, lawsuit says | NBC News | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.ibtimes.sg/ohio-police-officer-drags-paraplegic-black-man-out-vehicle-body-camera-footage-under-60637">Ohio Police Officer Drags Paraplegic Black Man Out of Vehicle by Hair in Body Camera Footage, Under Investigation | International Business Times | 2021</a>
<a href="https://abcnews.go.com/US/unarmed-latino-mental-health-crisis-shot-death-police/story?id=80440411">Unarmed Latino said to be having mental health crisis shot to death by police in California | ABC News | 2021</a>
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/21/us/baldwin-park-california-police-lawsuit/index.html">California police officer charged with assaulting a teenager during a traffic stop | CNN | 2021</a>
<a href="https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/federal-appeals-court-grants-officer-qualified-immunity-in-case-of-woman-who-begged-for-help-and-suffered-fatal-overdose-in-back-of-patrol-car/">Federal Appeals Court Grants Officer Qualified Immunity in Case of Woman Who Begged for Help and Suffered Fatal Overdose in Back of Patrol Car | Law & Crime | 2021</a>