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= Notes =
= Notes =
* Rapid Evolving, First Mover Disconnect: https://old.reddit.com/r/maybemaybemaybe/comments/191m0tp/maybe_maybe_maybe/
* Rapid Evolving, First Mover Disconnect: https://old.reddit.com/r/maybemaybemaybe/comments/191m0tp/maybe_maybe_maybe/
** https://old.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/196bfof/its_almost_like_we_respect_your_denial/
* Masking is Normal: https://old.reddit.com/r/me_irl/comments/1961de1/me_irl/
= Not Masculinity =
= Not Masculinity =
First, toxic masculinity is not a masculine trait (I suspect).
First, toxic masculinity is not a masculine trait (I suspect).
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* Not Helping: https://old.reddit.com/r/WitchesVsPatriarchy/comments/18ktlc1/something_like_that/
* Not Helping: https://old.reddit.com/r/WitchesVsPatriarchy/comments/18ktlc1/something_like_that/
* Consequences: https://old.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/18pfgbw/merry_christmas_gentlemen/
* Consequences: https://old.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/18pfgbw/merry_christmas_gentlemen/
* 18 Years W/O Support: https://old.reddit.com/r/maybemaybemaybe/comments/1aimpc5/maybe_maybe_maybe/
* Loneliness: https://old.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/1an23c8/why_is_loneliness_being_painted_as_a_male_issue/
** https://www.statista.com/statistics/1420227/loneliness-among-adults-us-by-gender/
** https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12888-017-1398-8
** https://old.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/1an23c8/why_is_loneliness_being_painted_as_a_male_issue/kpq00yx/


= Provider Pressure =
= Provider Pressure =

Latest revision as of 00:39, 11 February 2024

Notes

Not Masculinity

First, toxic masculinity is not a masculine trait (I suspect).

I'm not doing the "real men don't X" gatekeeping thing.

I'm saying I don't think it is related to masculinity. I think it is coupled to historical gender roles, laissez-faire capitalism, and provider pressure. I know a lot of brilliant, successful men who are rising through the ranks and making bank while getting increasingly traumatized by the workplace demand to be callous.

For a very long time, women worked in the home while men worked outside the home. As capitalism rose - particularly laissez-faire capitalism with its natural bias in favor of sociopathy - the people who were working were pressured to behave sociopathically, and those who were naturally inclined to sociopathy rose more naturally.

As a result, the most prominently successful men have been sociopaths or have behaved sociopathically. There may be some genetic selection pressure that caused an increase in sociopathy among men, but if laissez-faire capitalism is a prime mover of this social phenomenon, then there hasn't been time for it to significantly alter the genetic base.

Prior to laissez-faire capitalism, the only big organizational thing I can think of that could have been pressuring men toward sociopathy would be military hierarchy. I don't think military leadership has had a sufficient number of members with statistically significant larger numbers of offspring to have impacted the genome.

Emotional Abandonment

Provider Pressure

Women Prefer Bastards